{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"23297499","dateCreated":"1272272611","smartDate":"Apr 26, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"emasutani","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/emasutani","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23297499"},"dateDigested":1532140479,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"I have days when I look like I came down from the mountains...","description":"Yeah, shaving isn't my thing. It's time consuming and has a tendency to irritate my skin. So yeah, I have days when, well, I have what looks like a beard or could just be a bunch of iron filings attracted to the magnetic steel underneath but don't tell anyone I'm a Terminator...Regardless, shaving, like anything else, is an issue of choice. One way or another, it really isn't my business to comment on someone else's sense of style. On the same token, it's up to me whether or not I'm attracted to said person or anything like that. I abstain from shaving most of the time because I fail to see the value, since I frankly do not care very much about how others see me in school. For women, however, society has mandated that they look presentable and attractive at all times, which is rather unfair. Deciding to keep tidy is a personal choice and should stay that way until uncleanliness starts afflicting rather than affecting others.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"23297537","body":"With regards to whether men shaving leg hair is odd, I would have to say no. Having wrestled, I knew a few guys who shaved their legs for, well, whatever purposes so I have been desensitized to this male shaving. Furthermore, I have learned that swimmers shave for decreased water-resistance which is extremely practical. I approve. Shaving is all about cost\/benefit. Is it worth the shave to leave a good impression or not?","dateCreated":"1272272846","smartDate":"Apr 26, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"emasutani","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/emasutani","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"23251537","dateCreated":"1272086143","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"jamietaka","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jamietaka","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23251537"},"dateDigested":1532140479,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Leg hair - gender or culture?","description":"I do shave my legs, but I never felt pressure to do so because of my male friends, I always felt that all my girl friends were doing it, so I had to do it as well. I'm not sure who decided that American women should shave (it's definitely not an issue in Asia or Europe), but I think it has become a part of our culture. Girls shave their legs because everyone else does it, even our female idols. Although Mo'nique is making a statement, I think that it is one against American culture, not so much against the restrictions of gender. Men have to shave their beards to look "clean", and women do a similar thing. I don't think it's necessarily gender-specific. Perhaps the origins of shaving were to oppress women, but now, it is so common that we accept it almost as part of hygiene. To say that shaving is a restriction on women is like saying having different kinds of shoes is a restriction. We like having an assortment of shoes because it makes us feel prettier, and other girls have lots of shoes. Men don't seem to notice what we wear on our feet: it's a personal choice that has been continued by women. Shaved legs make you fit into an American society, not necessarily into men's view of society.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"23245695","dateCreated":"1272064653","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"Khaydan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Khaydan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23245695"},"dateDigested":1532140479,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Sc-hairy....","description":"I think shaving is a pain! I don't like shaving simply because it takes so much time, but luckily, being blonde, I don't have to shave frequently. But why do women have to be clean shaven while its perfectly fine for a man to be hairy? Its just another one of those standards that women are held to in order to acheive beauty. But I can see how its valid. Its the societal norm for women to be clean shaven - and the standard is even rubbing off on men. I wonder if being clean shaven is a characteristic of an upper-class society...because everyone in the media and Hollywood are clean shaven, if normal people are clean shaven they are more like their idols and the stars? Maybe, since more of Hollywood seems to be going for the au naturel look, it will rub off on society and not shaving will be acceptable.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"23245351","dateCreated":"1272063415","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"shfarmer","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/shfarmer","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23245351"},"dateDigested":1532140479,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Shaving","description":"This article was very interesting. I would not consider shaving to be a task that takes away freedom. Men and women both change to appeal good looking to the opposite sex. I think women should shave because many men are "turned off" by hairy women, just like how women are unattracted to some characteristics for men. As a boy I don't really need to shave all that much. Shaving my facial hair isn't a big deal for me. I shave my facial hair because to many girls it is considered unattractive. Also sometimes facial hair does get annoying. I think it is strange for men to shave their legs. It is considered more of a feminine characteriostic.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"23244953","dateCreated":"1272062019","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"elleky","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/elleky","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23244953"},"dateDigested":1532140479,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Shaving","description":"This article is definitely different from the past ones we've discussed. I think it's funny that someone would take the time to write an article about celebrities shaving tendencies. I think females with hairy legs or armpits are looked down upon because society says so. I don't think it's the stars that really influenced that. I do agree that shaving makes someone seem more clean and hygenic. I personally think women should shave their underarms at least if they wear sleeveless tops, but I think legs are fine shaven or unshaven. Underarm hair is clearly present especially when wearing sleeveless tops. Unless someone is extremely close to you and staring, they probably won't see your hairy legs.
\nI wouldn't say I enjoy shaving. I feel like it's kind of a hassle and I get too lazy to do it sometimes, but I do like how my legs feel afterwards. I don't feel like its a task that takes away my personal freedom. I think it's just a matter of choice. If I hated shaving so much, I would just stop. That said, I don't think boys shaving their legs is a weird thing. It's not something that is usually seen, but I don't look down at boys who do that. I know society's image of a woman is one that is clean and shaves their body hair, but I don't think the opposite is true. I don't think society requires men to be hairy and look down on ones that aren't.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"23244699","dateCreated":"1272061272","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"katobin16","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/katobin16","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23244699"},"dateDigested":1532140479,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Depends on society","description":"Personally, I really feel that women should shave their legs. However, that is solely based on the ideas that our society has imposed. For instance, in Europe it's considered fashionable to not shave one's legs. I think it's probably a personal choice, based on family tradition and other choices. Additionally, it depends on how much emphasis a person places on personal appearance. In the case of the article, Monique's choices in terms of grooming seem to emphasize her rebellion of society's conventions (just like Marjane!) Although I can see how people would be upset, people should just be tolerant of other's choices.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"23210855","dateCreated":"1272011288","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"jennawong6","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jennawong6","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23210855"},"dateDigested":1532140479,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Body Hair","description":"Although I respect female celebrities\u2019 pro-choice stand and attempt to extinguish inhibition, I, as a female, would not let my leg and underarm hairs grow to their natural length. In American culture, body hair on women has become a taboo representing dirtiness and improper behavior. I feel more confident in public when my legs are smooth and hairless, and I usually wear pants on other days. I don\u2019t look down on women\/girls who don\u2019t shave their leg or arm hair, but I do think that it shows that she takes care of herself. I would compare shaving to make-up--you don\u2019t have to wear make-up all the time, but there are certain occasions for which it is appropriate.
\n
\nGender does not determine whether or not a person shaves, but rather WHERE that person shaves. Hairiness seems to be a more masculine quality, but even men need to shave their \u201cproblem areas.\u201d Just as hairy legs imply bad hygiene for a female, a long, unkept beard can imply bad hygiene on a man. Thus, I do not look at Mo\u2019Nique and Julia Robert\u2019s au natural stand to be a feminist campaign, but rather, as Amanda Palmer said, a pro-choice campaign.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"23240233","body":"I love that last line, Jenna!","dateCreated":"1272051981","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"23210801","dateCreated":"1272010742","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"maliama","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/maliama","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23210801"},"dateDigested":1532140479,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"shaving","description":"I don\u2019t really know what I think about this article. Leg hair is gross, yes. Armpit hair is revolting, but these thoughts have not been put in place by the media. It\u2019s society. Before I had any hair growing, I witnessed my mother shaving. I see it almost like a cultural ritual. Like showering, we have learned that in the American culture, you shower so you don\u2019t smell; you brush your teeth so you don\u2019t have bad breath\/cavities, and you shave your hair (not on your head). America is a country where hygiene is very important. People care about personal upkeep and good hygiene. It\u2019s America\u2019s idea of beauty. Every culture has some form of it. I\u2019ve seen pictures of some women in Africa who consider long necks to be beautiful. I\u2019ve heard of Chinese\u2014or was it Japanese\u2014feet binding. These women don\u2019t see anything wrong with what they do, just like we don\u2019t see anything wrong with what we do. The idea of beautiful hairless women in America will never change, the difference in America is that women have more freedom to do what they want, and I feel that unshaven women are just expressing their ability to assert their independence, not listen to what other people tell them to do, not follow crowds, and do what they want.
\n I do not think that shaving takes away my freedom. I shave, because I want to. It\u2019s what my mother has always done. It\u2019s what the large majority of WOMEN (not girls) do. It\u2019s almost like a coming of age ritual. I\u2019m sure everybody remembers the first time they shaved. I have been taught by American culture that hairiness is gross, so naturally I want to shave. I think it\u2019s good that women want to express their freedom by not shaving, but I feel that they need to be prepared for weird looks and things to stay the way they are, because its part of our culture and teachings.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"23240283","body":"Your comment about it being a ritual is fascinating. I never considered that--it makes sense.","dateCreated":"1272052095","smartDate":"Apr 23, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"23209729","dateCreated":"1272004493","smartDate":"Apr 22, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"marigaliher","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marigaliher","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23209729"},"dateDigested":1532140480,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Shave Your Legs","description":"Hmmm. Shaving your legs. To be honest, I hate shaving my legs, but I do it every week or maybe less. It is quite a hassle to shave, don't you agree? I mean I feel to do a quality shaving job, takes a good deal of time in the shower and water. I do not feel it makes me tied down or free, I feel it is part of personal appearance and even hygiene. I feel that I am not manly so much, as I feel animal like when I do not shave. I know a great deal of boys that do shave their legs. I think it is very feminine of them to do so. Each one of them claims it is for sports, but I am not sure I believe this rationale. Anyways, I definitely and truly do not like shaving, I use Veet instead of a razor. I only like the way my legs look after I use Veet on them. I hate always having to worry about razorburn. I feel that women are always expected to shave, but are we considered gross if we do not shave? I respect this celeb for not shaving, I heard about her before and she is very proud of her hair! Power to her!!","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"23208377","dateCreated":"1272000562","smartDate":"Apr 22, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"askoga","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/askoga","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/23208377"},"dateDigested":1532140480,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Shaving","description":"It will definitely be interesting to hear the male response to this article. I\u2019m not as attached to my razor as I am to my shampoo and conditioner. Personally, I feel that a woman or man should do whatever it takes to make herself or himself feel beautiful or handsome. How can you be disgusted over something that someone else sees as beautiful? In certain countries, it\u2019s against a woman\u2019s religion to shave her legs, so people can live without doing it. However, exposing it by making a statement like Mo\u2019Nique is probably not the classiest thing to do. But the reality is; society likes the clean-cut look. I know excessive body hair on men turns off some women. But here\u2019s the thing. Women have a choice. People can drone on and on about what society wants, but society cannot make our decisions. I agree, it takes a lot of self-confidence to not shave, but the fact is we do have a choice. There is no law that says we have to shave, put on makeup, or be a size zero. This article was interesting because it took a stance on something that people don\u2019t normally argue about. I mean, I hear almost every girl say, \u201cWhoa I need to shave my legs,\u201d more than I hear, \u201cWow, my makeup\u2019s not nice today.\u201d And if Julia Roberts gets an award with hairy armpits, that won\u2019t make me hate her. If any of my friends showed up to prom with unshaven legs, it wouldn\u2019t bother me. What it boils down to is that nicely shaven legs can only take a person so far, but they won\u2019t give you self-confidence or a hot boyfriend.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}