{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"33167324","dateCreated":"1295993416","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"tiffli","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/tiffli","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33167324"},"dateDigested":1532140289,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"\"The Scarlet A\" Response","description":"I believe that the reason why most women do not admit to being "ambitious" is because of their "ideal" role in society. People usually expect women to be modest and shy so once they admit that they're strong and "power-hungry" then that slightly makes the rest of the world afraid. The idea of a man being ambitious is not as abnormal. This is probably because of the stereotype that men uphold the "dominant" role in anything. It could also tie in with the other gender assumption that men are more blunt than women while they don't have to "sugarcoat" everything that they have to say.
\n
\nBut I believe that this idea is absolutely ridiculous! Why should a woman who is already successful be afraid to admit that she had to work hard in order to get to where she is today? She should say it out loud and proud that she had to knock a couple people down in order for her to get so high up. Of course, men also get judged for being not humble enough when admitting that they were too aggressive in climbing their way to the top. Both men and women should find an equal balance that will help them admit their determination and strive toward accomplishment.
\n
\nIt is a common theory that women don't have as many opportunities as men. They feel as if they are unfairly prejudiced against certain aspects within society. But how can they live beyond that general mindset if they are the ones that are hindering themselves from being known for their greatest achievements?","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33167272","dateCreated":"1295993364","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"mischwin","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/mischwin","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33167272"},"dateDigested":1532140289,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"The Scarlet A","description":"After reading this article, I agree with almost everything that Leslie Bennetts described women to be. I was not fully aware that women did not like to seem ambitious, and I still do not understand completely why it\u2019s such a bad thing. One thing Bennets talked about that I found interesting is how \u201cGirls are now told they can be and do anything, but they\u2019re much less likely to be taught that they should have a life plan that\u2019s intentional.\u201d I feel like this is true for many, but not all women, like me. I think in present day, many women do have intentional plans; however, in the past it was not always like that. I also agree with Bennetts when she says that women tend to be more scared and give up easier if they find a problem. I think many women are also scared of being rejected which contributes to why they don\u2019t take as big of an initiative when it comes to certain things. Another thing I found interesting is how women try to hide their accomplishments. When asked about their success, they answer by \u201ctelling the public what it expects to hear.\u201d I found this interesting because while reading this article I wondered why they are not proud of what they have done\/ what they are able to do, but then I realized that I do this too. This article has really opened my eyes to how differently women act, and how I can improve myself.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33160552","dateCreated":"1295986856","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"tikoon","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/tikoon","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33160552"},"dateDigested":1532140289,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"The Scarlet A","description":"I think that women are more passive than men because throughout history, assertiveness was never supposedly a good attribute for women. In society it is usually looked down upon for some reason. I guess assertiveness is suppose to be more for men because it reverts back to the cave man days where the women were depended on to do very much at all, where the men were suppose to provide for the family. I mean even now days, guys do not like it when girls are more aggressive than them because growing up that is what we became used to. I have seen so many times in the media where the men stand up for the women, but you will hardly ever see the woman stand up for the man. Just because of the way it was in the past, women might not give themselves the credit that they deserve. They act more passive bbecause that is the way we have been taught in our society, which is not right at all. It is getting better now days seeing successful woman like oprah, Hilary Clinton, Catherine Zeta Jones, and some of them say that they got lucky or didn't expect their lves to turn out as good as it did, but they would be lying because they know that they worked extremely hard to get where they are and they had to take the initiative to accomplish what they have. Hopefully, women are realizing that they can accomplish great things just like these women have.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33157236","dateCreated":"1295984106","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"kisouza","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kisouza","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33157236"},"dateDigested":1532140290,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Response: The Scarlet A","description":"The article \u201cThe Scarlet A\u201d by Leslie Bennetts has a very interesting topic as she talks about women and power. Women are passive and don\u2019t like to show their power. She talked about some very interesting points like how \u201cWhen men are being tough, voters define it as strength, but when women show toughness, the voters think they\u2019re bitches.\u201d This was very interesting to me because I never really thought of this but after hearing and thinking about it I agree with it. Another interesting point deals with the op-eds. 80% of op-eds are written by men. At an op-ed training session, it was hard for the women to answer the questions because they said it was \u201cimmodest and elitist.\u201d The women hated this exercise and had problems with it, while men had no problem with it. Also Bennetts said that she has interviewed some of the world\u2019s most powerful and celebrated women and throughout her interviews only one admitted to being ambitious. Even Oprah was humble about her status. She was the first black billionaire, but she doesn\u2019t brag about it to everyone. Another example is Condoleezza Rice, a female who graduated at age fifteen. Oprah asked her when she realized she was smart and she said never. Everyone knew she was very smart, but she was humble about it and didn\u2019t go boasting about it. This article shows that males are open about things and went people to know about them and they want to be famous and show off, while women tend to be humble and keep things to themselves. Also women tend to deny things and don\u2019t except the truth. For example Rice denied her intelligence when she was very smart and even Hilary Clinton denied being asked by Obama to be his secretary of state. Women feel that they can\u2019t take over men and show them up.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33147516","dateCreated":"1295975806","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"kehu93","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kehu93","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33147516"},"dateDigested":1532140290,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Response to \"The Scarlet A\"","description":" When I first read this article, I was rather surprised by how big an issue this was. I have personally never seen any serious examples of women being afraid to be ambitious. At our own high school, the president of the senior class is a female. No one has ever questioned whether or not a female should be in a position of such power and clearly she feels that she belongs as she has been president for several years in a row. I am particularly surprised that such influential women as Oprah and Hilary Clinton are not ambitious and driven as most men will never be as powerful as they are. Based on my previous experiences with hearing about these two women, I firmly believed that they were extremely driven and were pursuing a goal. To hear that Hilary recommend others as secretary of state and Oprah deny being a businesswoman came as a bit of a shock. To hear other powerful women claim that "their careers are propelled mainly by coincidence and good fortune" is even more surprising. I had the impression that women who are presidents of universities or governors would be very ambitious and extremely professional. To hear them say such things as \u201cThings sort of happened.\u201d and \u201cI don\u2019t know. Lucky, I guess.\u201d seemed odd and unexpected. Perhaps all this reluctance to be ambitious is an old-fashioned trait as I believe girls nowadays are less unwilling to put themselves out there to achieve their goals, and in the near future we will be having many more women leaders.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33136024","dateCreated":"1295967531","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"materaya","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/materaya","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33136024"},"dateDigested":1532140290,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Response: The Scarlet A","description":"After reading The Scarlet A, I agree with Leslie Bennetts, that \u201cwomen typically portray themselves as passive and reactive rather than as game-changers\u2014as if their success flowed from outside forces rather than their own ability to pursue clear goals effectively,\u201d although I don't want to believe it. \u201cSociety\u201d puts standards on genders. Women are living up to those standards and going beyond it, but quietly. I don\u2019t think it that women lack confidence; I believe it\u2019s just that women don\u2019t need to flaunt their success the way men do, \u201cmen have less trouble owning up to their intentions.\u201d Modesty comes with being respected in society for women. It\u2019s harder for a successful and ambitious women to be respected in they are not modest. A man on the other hand has the right to have a voice, be aggressive and be accretive. It\u2019s harder for a woman to have a voice, be aggressive, and be accretive without being judged the wrong way. Women have to maintatin a certaing image for themselves in society in order to be respected. (I\u2019m not saying that there are less successful women than successful men, but it\u2019s just that there seem to be more successful men.) I think that successful women feel overpowered by men because there are so many working around them that they feel almost inferior so they need to be modest and keep their self in place or they might get judged the wrong way.
\n I think women know that they are not incapable of succeeding; it\u2019s just a matter of how far society will let them go and how far they themselves are willing to go.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33134614","dateCreated":"1295966344","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"materaya","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/materaya","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33134614"},"dateDigested":1532140290,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Response: The Scarlet A","description":"After reading The Scarlet A, I agree with Leslie Bennetts, that \u201cwomen typically portray themselves as passive and reactive rather than as game-changers\u2014as if their success flowed from outside forces rather than their own ability to pursue clear goals effectively,\u201d although I don't want to believe it. \u201cSociety\u201d puts standards on genders. Women are living up to those standards and going beyond it, but quietly. I don\u2019t think it that women lack confidence; I believe it\u2019s just that women don\u2019t need to flaunt their success the way men do, \u201cmen have less trouble owning up to their intentions.\u201d Modesty comes with being respected in society for women. It\u2019s harder for a successful and ambitious women to be respected in they are not modest. A man on the other hand has the right to have a voice, be aggressive and be accretive.
\n (I\u2019m not saying that there are less successful women than successful men, but it\u2019s just that there seem to be more successful men.) I think that successful women feel overpowered by men because there are so many working around them that they feel almost inferior so they need to be modest and keep their self in place or they might get judged the wrong way.
\n I think women know that they are not incompetent of succeeding; it\u2019s just a matter of how far society will let them go.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33125982","dateCreated":"1295944684","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"marissachow","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marissachow","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33125982"},"dateDigested":1532140290,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"The Scarlet A","description":" I found this article very interesting because I was amazed to find that such accomplished women were not willing to own up to their success and ambitions. For household names such as Oprah and Condoleezza Rice, I am blown away with the numerous barriers they have broken. As surprising as it was for me to find that women won't admit to their success, I know what it feels like to demote yourself to ensure that you are seen as humble and not arrogant person. No matter what it is, when women are asked about their score, rating, or grade, I always find that they don\u2019t directly address the question. Instead, they over exaggerate their answer by saying something like, \u201cI failed\u201d or \u201cI did horrible.\u201d When Rice said, \u201cIf I\u2019m not Einstein, I don\u2019t even deserve to call myself intelligent,\u201d this shows my point of women over-exaggerating their answers. If women are not humble, they are called bad names but if men are not humble it is more accepted in society. I feel that women grow up hearing that they have the power to change things but when the opportunity arises, women question their validity of their choices. Men have a reputation of setting their minds to something and going out to get it but women on the other hand don\u2019t have the same mind set. I think women analyze situations with both of their pros and cons in mind. I have no doubt that women have the capability to be successful and ambitious but I think that we get in the way of our own success.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33125928","dateCreated":"1295944374","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"Keahi","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Keahi","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33125928"},"dateDigested":1532140290,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Response to a Women's Strength","description":"The article was really interesting to me. It was amazing that even strong, famous, and powerful women were quiet about their success. Oprah is an example of this, on the other hand if it were a guy, i could see a guy bragging to his friends or talking about what he has accomplished. To me, it never seemed as if women were looked down upon for being ambitious. It's interesting that even the most successful women don't like to talk about their accomplishments. Its not as if females are embarrassed of what they have accomplished in life but have no need to brag about it and they are just doing what needs to be done. For many of these women, it was a goal for them to accomplish many things of the same things that men have and once accomplished they have no need to talk about it but look forward to tackling their next goal. These women were very powerful but had no need to build their self esteem and brag or talk about their accomplishments. It's truly amazing how these mature and powerful women acted while being interviewed knowing they were successful and not wanting to brag about it. Although it seems that women are weak and sensitive, in actuality, they are strong and powerful. As we look back in history and the specific roles that women portray in life, we can see that women often think outside the box and accomplished way more than they set out to attain. This is an extremely important piece of information for other women that anything is possible. Many people still feel that she could never have done that because she is a women but you would be suprised what goes through these powerful womens heads when they set goals. They are incredibly strong minded and focused and they achieve their goals without the help of anyone.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"33125814","dateCreated":"1295943642","smartDate":"Jan 25, 2011","userCreated":{"username":"eriNISHappi","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/eriNISHappi","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/33125814"},"dateDigested":1532140290,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"\"Power-to\" Vs. \"Power-over\"","description":"The word \u201cpassive\u201d when used as an adjective is defined as \u201c1. not actively taking part\u201d or \u201c2. obeying readily.\u201d This word brings to mind lumps of yielding clay but not the women one encounters on a day to day basis. However that is just the image some of the most successful, and indeed powerful women in the world today are perpetuating of themselves. They do not deny that they are now at this moment successful, they do however fail to recollect just exactly how they got to this pinnacle in their lives. Why is it that women are suddenly desexualized if they have power or ambition? To be honest this all links back to societal norms from the medieval times when women were at most born into positions of power and always expected to be \u201cladylike\u201d and subservient to their husbands or any other patriarch they encountered.
\nPersonally I found that the most poignant topic brought up in this article was that of the reshaping of the word power. Instead of being an oppressive force, power would convey a more benevolent feeling. It truly is quite sad to imagine that even a rudimentary concept as bold and audacious as the concept of power needs to be feminized in order for it to appeal to the majority of modern women.
\nOr perhaps my read on this article is completely wrong. Hopefully the feigned act of feminine coyness is just that, feigned. One can only hope that the entire charade is a duplicitous ploy for power in order to quench an aching sense of ambition. If so how ingenious of these already powerful women, they can reach the zenith of success, and as long as they pretend it was all through some act of God or Lady Luck they receive the adoration of the public and their inferiors.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}