{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428427","dateCreated":"1253313973","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"kenziesato","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kenziesato","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14428427"},"dateDigested":1532140601,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Unfair!","description":"I don't agree at all with what the Australian military is doing by restricting women from being on the frontline.  If they are just as mentally and physically able, proving by passing an evaluation, then why can't they serve their country if they want to?  I don't see a valid point for the military not allowing capable women to fight.  I don't think that it's any more terrible for a man to come home in a body bag than a woman.  It seems that it is just the fact that it is a woman that they don't want them fighting the frontline.  If they are just as able and perhaps even better than some guys, the why wouldn't they want to benefit their team?  It just doesn't seem right that the women  who want to participate in such way can't just because they're female, not because they wouldn't get the job done.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428759","body":"What do you think the basis is for excluding women here?","dateCreated":"1253314834","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14427163","dateCreated":"1253310535","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"nipeltze","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/nipeltze","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14427163"},"dateDigested":1532140601,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Women Should Be Equal","description":"Women should be able to have the same right to fight at the front, alongside with the men. It they wan to help defend their country, the fact that they are female should not have any influence in this decision. My family and I visited Australia Spring Break 2006, and I distinctly remember the sexist attitude that runs through males in Sydney. When we asked for directions, men would only speak directly to my dad, pretty much ignoring my mom. It was a different atmosphere and culture, one that extended to include my mom and I. I think this attitude might play into their decision, as they seem to believe women need to be cared for and taken care of. However, women there should be able to make this choice for themselves, and as I see it, they should be able to fight at the front lines along with the men.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428779","body":"Interesting.  I never thought of Australia as being a place where this would be a problem.","dateCreated":"1253314896","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14425357","dateCreated":"1253306181","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"cokozuma","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/cokozuma","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14425357"},"dateDigested":1532140601,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Frontlines","description":"after reviewing this article i have come to the conclusion that women should be allowed to fight on the frontlines.  We must give them an oppurtunity if they want to fight and let them because it is their right.  Many believe that women aren't fit to go into battle but sometimes women can be stronger then men.  Women should be allowed to fight if they want, if they were forced to fight it would be a different story, but in this case they want it, so let them have it.  And regarding about if we want to see men or women come home in body bags, it doesn't matter because we know that they both died for a good and worthy cause and we just need to make sure that their death isn't in vain.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428801","body":"I do think we still perceive a male and female soldier's death in a different way. Sadly.","dateCreated":"1253314960","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14420521","dateCreated":"1253298056","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"dekristin","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/dekristin","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14420521"},"dateDigested":1532140602,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"brah, chicks can be tick too!","description":"I couldn't access the article either, but I am in total agreement with Karla. I think that women should have every right to fight for their country, and that they have rightfully earned to do so.  Women (or even men) that can pass the test are probably in the best physical and mental shape, and those people should be the ones who serve their country.  Women should be able to fight alongside the men because even though there are many differences between the sexes, their differences, strengths and weaknesses will balance out for an even stronger front.  I also think that although many people are concerned about women coming home in body bags, it is just the same when men come home in body bags.  Death is death, and no matter when sex or gender, it still hurts the same.  These women choose to represent their country, and should be honored for their decision.  They should be given the right to fight, no matter where in the world they might be.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428817","body":"Is fighting for one's country a right or a privilege?","dateCreated":"1253315002","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14417213","dateCreated":"1253293951","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"bryap","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/bryap","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14417213"},"dateDigested":1532140602,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Australian Frontline","description":"I was unable to open this article which Karla posted. However from what Karla typed as a summary, I think that it is very sexist if the law states that no women can fight on the frontline with the guys. The endurance and strength test and psych test are both very hard to pass, but if the women want to be on the frontline with the guys, that should be an option. I bet you some of the women are even more athletic and fit than some of the guys on the frontline. So why is there this restrain on women? Also they are defending their homeland so they should have a right to fight alongside the guys.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428833","body":"Why do you think the frontline is a different notion in terms of gender?","dateCreated":"1253315057","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14400385","dateCreated":"1253268683","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"kekaneta","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kekaneta","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14400385"},"dateDigested":1532140602,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"they come from a land down under","description":"I wasn't able to access the article, but from looking at Karla's summary, I have to say that I don't completely agree with Australia's policy concerning enlistment.  If women are both capable and willing to fight, I think that the government should respect their decisions.  Female enlistment has always been a touchy subject.  Part of the reason why the Equal Rights Amendment was not ratified, was because women would no longer be exempt from the draft.  Of course no one wants to see anyone die in combat, but that should not be exclusive to women.  If women are able to make their own decisions in the workplace and at the polls, I think that they should be able to have a say as to whether they\u2019d like to fight; especially if they pass all of the requirements in order to do so.   It\u2019s interesting to me that Australia has adopted such narrow mindset.  I\u2019m curious to know who the main advocates are for keeping women back from the frontlines: men or women?  I can see why people were hesitant to allow female enlistment in the early 1900s, but we have come such a long way since then and have become a lot more progressive and accepting of change.  Before this article I had no idea that women were prohibited from combat in Australia.  In fact, I though women enlistment was common now especially since many women in America have decided to and are fighting for our country on the frontlines alongside men.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428851","body":"I also want to know who those advocates were!","dateCreated":"1253315106","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14398955","dateCreated":"1253259117","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"spluther","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/spluther","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14398955"},"dateDigested":1532140603,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"More than one issue","description":"First of all, the women should be allowed to fight if they want. I stress the allowed part - fighting in general (both for men and women) is controversial in my mind. People should not be fighting in the first place - such an urge of nature should, in my opinion, be overcome. However, if any woman is willing to fight for the right to fight, she should do be denied the right. Also, the issues brought up about why women should not be on the front line are bogus. Those with these opinions are basically saying that women should not be able to do what men do, and THAT IS SEXIST. It also seems to me like the issue is in fact forcing women to go to war and not letting them, by the way anti-female fighter vocalists arguing. In the end, I think it is basically sexist.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428885","body":"The word &quot;allow&quot; is always in interesting one in terms of both gender and race, is it not?","dateCreated":"1253315207","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14398125","dateCreated":"1253253910","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"neagbaya","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/neagbaya","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14398125"},"dateDigested":1532140603,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Uuhhmm..","description":"Although I can clearly see the gender inequality issue in this article, my opinion is probably different from that of everyone else in the class; some may even antagonize it.  I believe that Australia's decision to not let women in the frontline is good, but for different reasons.  I don't know where or how I picked up this principle, but I believe that males should be the one that protects the family and women.  It's not that I discriminate, and I'm also not saying that I am the most chivalrous man in the world, but it has always been a principle of mine.  Men should be the one that fights, the one that stands up, the one that does everything to keep the evils away from the women or the family.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nOut of curiosity, who would want to be in the front line anyways?  I'm pretty sure that any of the men in the frontline is more than willing to give up their position to a woman.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428903","body":"I see where you're coming from. I'm looking forward to hearing from you in discussion!","dateCreated":"1253315257","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14398053","dateCreated":"1253253366","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"TawniMurphy","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/TawniMurphy","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14398053"},"dateDigested":1532140603,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"not fair","description":"I think that women should be allowed to fight where they want in any given country because it is their choice to begin with that they want to fight.  When one fights, they are defending their country. What I don't understand is if the point of the military is to help defend one's country, why would you deny someone the right to fight WHERE THEY WANT when they are putting their lives at risk to defend that country.  I think that it is inspiring that women want to be put into that front line of defense in times of conflict because it shows their courage, they perseverance, and their willingness to do what a lot of people wouldn't even think about. <br \/>\nI do not think that it is just okay for the Australian Government to say that they dont what just the women to come home in body bags because it is not just the women who are trying and risking their lives to defend Australia.  I think that the men deserve it just as much as the women do to not come home in body bags. but if one were to come home in a body bag, their family will know that their son or daughter, brother or sister, mother or father died trying to defend their family's rights and their country!<br \/>\nI dont think that tests should be the thing to determine what who is and who isn't apart of the front line of defense.  Just like how tests aren't the only thing that determines what college we go to, tests are just factors in the placements.  <br \/>\nFinally, i think that women should be allowed to fight along side of the men in combat because the women chose to join the armed services.  it wouldn't be right to deny someone to do something that they chose what they were going to do, even if they knew that they might be killed. women have just as much of a right to join the armed services just as much as the men do.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428943","body":"The idea of &quot;deserving&quot; the right to come home in a body bag is an interesting one to me. The language is controversial, too!","dateCreated":"1253315356","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]},{"id":"14397983","dateCreated":"1253253094","smartDate":"Sep 17, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"kellyho","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/kellyho","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/14397983"},"dateDigested":1532140604,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"equality","description":"It is good if only men are drafted.  Not all women should be allowed to fight along side with men.  I think most women wouldn't want to join the army anyways because they aren\u2019t as strong and physically built as men.  Statistically, men performs better in war.  Thus, this concerns the fact of fighting the war efficiently without wasting lives.<br \/>\n<br \/>\nHowever,  it is unequal when both genders have the same ability but one side is restricted to fight in the front line.  In the case of Australia, the fact that women can't fight in the front line even when they have passed the training and the psychological test is an act of discriminating against women.  Australia lets women join the army, meaning they have recognized women as an equal to men on the level of physical and mental endurance.  Therefore, it is unfair that the government doesn't allow women to be in the front line when they are as capable.   <br \/>\n<br \/>\nHence, I think it would be more justifiable if women can't join the army than letting women become soldiers and not letting them fight in the front line.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"14428963","body":"Hm...interesting!  You weren't alone in your opinion.","dateCreated":"1253315404","smartDate":"Sep 18, 2009","userCreated":{"username":"MsFalk","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/MsFalk","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/pic\/1250807416\/MsFalk-lg.jpg"}}],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}