{"content":{"sharePage":{"page":0,"digests":[{"id":"20134315","dateCreated":"1266004764","smartDate":"Feb 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"jennawong6","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/jennawong6","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20134315"},"dateDigested":1532140632,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Response to Turkish girl's murder ","description":"This article was disturbing on many different levels.  I am disgusted to hear of the brutal punishments that still occur in underdeveloped countries, especially for trivial &quot;crimes&quot; such as this.  In America, even serial killers are punished with either imprisonment or quick death, punishments far less painful than live burial.  <br \/>\nBesides the intensity of the punishment, I am also appalled by what the people in Turkey consider to be a crime.  This shows the harsh view of females as insubordinate, to the point where they cannot even socialize with those of the opposite gender.  <br \/>\nLastly, I am surprised as to how a parent can kill his\/her child. Abuse is strongly scorned in America, so hearing of murder is almost uncomprehensible.  Such occurences remind me how fortunate I am to live in America.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20112619","dateCreated":"1265970530","smartDate":"Feb 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"emasutani","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/emasutani","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20112619"},"dateDigested":1532140632,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Sins of the Past","description":"If we Americans measure ourselves up to the theoretical goal of true gender equality, we would still find ourselves severely lacking.  It should come as no surprise, then, that if a \u201cprogressive\u201d nation like America is still far from this theoretical goal an extremely conservative nation like Turkey would be expected to be very misogynistic.  It is not so much the fault of the current day Turks as it is the accumulated problems of the region\u2019s people over time, that is to say, people commit such atrocities because their culture deems it acceptable.  This in no mean justifies the murder in the article, but it does offer insight into the curious responses of the police and the lack of uproar from the people.  The police are human and are probably subscribe to the belief that women are inferior and should not associate with men (again, the fault of those who came before and propagated these beliefs, e.g. religious leaders, politicians, warlords, etc.).  By the same line of reasoning, the Turkish women and people did not react since, at least subconsciously, they probably believe in female-inferiority\/less rights for women.  This is the status quo and in a conservative society, it\u2019s probably accept it and do the best you can given the circumstances or rebel and be slaughtered.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20111793","dateCreated":"1265965027","smartDate":"Feb 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"maliama","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/maliama","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20111793"},"dateDigested":1532140632,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Malia","description":"I could not believe that parents could be so upset about their daughter speaking to boys that they could take her life.  It blows my mind how different our culture is from other cultures and how much freedom we are given.  It is very curious that the boys were not punished for talking to the girl.  Maybe only some families in the Turkish culture are extremely strict about this social rule.  Maybe it is not as big of a deal to the boys family.  Maybe they didn't know in the first place.  Like I said earlier, in our country, flirting happens day to day and is completely normal.  In our country we have freedom of speech and can talk to whomever we choose.  I think that religion and beliefs are definitely instilled by parents and are passed from generation to generation.  Parents play a huge role in their children\u2019s' beliefs.  When that child grows older, it becomes their choice whether to pass on traditions or not.  As to why women do not do anything to solve their problem, I think that women probably do not have a say in Turkish culture.  They might be killed for speaking out as well.  Maybe their only option is to do as men tell them to do and ask no questions.  If this is the case, I feel horrible about what women without voices have to put up with.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20111693","dateCreated":"1265964691","smartDate":"Feb 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"noelleisswell","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/noelleisswell","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20111693"},"dateDigested":1532140632,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Lumi and Jaime","description":"Oh my goodness! This article is surprising and kind of frightening. I cannot believe that these \u201chonour\u201d killings account for half of the murders in Turkey. I have a question about this though\u2014how are women supposed to meet their husbands if they are not allowed to talk to boys? I think that sixteen is an age that is old enough to be able to talk to the opposite sex considering in some cultures this is the age in which people get married. Not only in other cultures, but also in American cultures, people find it totally expectable to talk to the other sex (and more if you know what I mean); I mean look at shows like 16 and Pregnant. Our society just looks at a pregnant teen basically as no big deal whereas in Turkey a girl gets murdered by her family for just talking to a boy. Yikes. But I do wonder if the teens know the consequences for talking with the opposite sex or if their hormones simply take over. Overall, I think it is very difficult for cultures to change ideas and thoughts just like that\u2014it will take a lot of time and a lot more sad stories like this but I think change can happen if someone really wants it.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20111517","dateCreated":"1265963785","smartDate":"Feb 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"Khaydan","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/Khaydan","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20111517"},"dateDigested":1532140632,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Khaydan","description":"I also found this article appalling. I definitely think that religion and societal standards of Turkey were the causes of this murder. In this society, no women\u2019s rights movements have taken place so women do not have an avenue to have their voices heard so this violence stops. Furthermore, the Islamic religion which is prevalent in Turkey still holds women back by not allowing them to show themselves in public, speak out of place, or prove any seniority over any man. These factors, I think, was what contributed to the girl being punished in this situation and not the boys. The girl was establishing herself on an equal level to the boys by speaking to them. She was also disobeying the orders of her male family members to not speak to the opposite sex. Though this does not make the blatant violence of this situation bearable, it does somewhat explain why it occurred. Furthermore, I do not think it is a case of whether women in Turkey are not doing anything to solve the situation. Anything women said or did would result in the same type of violence towards the person who spoke out. I think the only true solution is intervention by a group of nations in which women\u2019s rights has been established. But it will not be easy to change the views that have been established for centuries by a religion and society.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20111501","dateCreated":"1265963743","smartDate":"Feb 12, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"elleky","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/elleky","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20111501"},"dateDigested":1532140633,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Turkish girl buried alive","description":"This article was completely shocking! I could not believe that the poor girl's own father and grandfather could have given their own child such a cruel punishment.<br \/>\n As I have mentioned before in my blogs and in my first women in lit paper, girls in general tend to have stricter rules than boys do, regardless of what country they're in. However, it appears that in Turkey, males are definitely much more dominant and powerful than females are. Although hundreds of girls are being killed and cruelly punished for talking to boys, nothing seems to happen to the boys. It is as much the boys' fault as it is the girls', so I don't see why the boys aren't being punished as well (I'm not condoning the killing of boys, but they should be disciplined and punished in some lesser degree). Males are probably considered more &quot;valuable&quot; than girls are in Turkey so they aren't buried alive. Since males are so much more powerful in Turkey than women are, they don't have a very strong voice and therefore speaking up will not do much to help the problem.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20110827","dateCreated":"1265960578","smartDate":"Feb 11, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"askoga","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/askoga","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20110827"},"dateDigested":1532140633,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Jamie and Lumi's Current Event","description":"After I read this article, I feel extremely grateful for the rights I have as a woman in America.  I\u2019m glad the girl stood up for herself and didn\u2019t stop talking to boys; however, I don\u2019t believe it was right for her family to take her life for that reason.  I talk to males daily, not to flirt, but simply because they are my friends.  I think at times, the women in America are concerned with the pettiest of things, and don\u2019t take into account all the rights they have.  Clearly, some cultures in Turkey scorn interactions between males and females.  I have to disagree with this ideal because I have learned valuable lessons by interacting with males.  My female peers are much more moody and judgmental, and can never give me a straight answer.  My male peers are much easier to talk to, and they always know how to lighten a mood.  At times I might take their friendship for granted, but I have no idea what I would do without them.  I think the girl met some nice boys, who were probably opposite of her father and grandfather, which is why she wanted to have the opportunity to get closer to them.  Of course, her male guardians didn\u2019t want to foster this relationship so they punished her with death.  This article really opened my eyes to the fact that America is pretty progressive in enforcing women\u2019s rights, and maybe we shouldn\u2019t be complaining as much.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20110157","dateCreated":"1265957004","smartDate":"Feb 11, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"marigaliher","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/marigaliher","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20110157"},"dateDigested":1532140633,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Buried Alive","description":"What on Earth! This article is crazy. How could this honestly be. In our society, this is a heinous crime. I can't even begin to fathom this story, because it is so unheard of in our society. First off, this shows extreme differences in different societies, cultures, and religions. Although this was supposedly &quot;justified&quot; by those who did the crime, but seriously this is not right in my opinion. So if this were a boy, talking to a girl, the girl would still be punished and the boy probably a slap on the wrist. I just don't understand why girls are treated so badly in this society. Are they not considered respected because they are women? If so, when will this type of society change to ways of the United States. I am not saying that everyone should be like us, but hey, a girl being buried alive. That is not okay! Obviously, from the different generations differ greatly in what they view as correct, but still, to bury your own granddaughter or daughter alive, surely that is not okay. I know if something like this, god forbid, happened to me, my father would hunt down whomever this person who committed the act and take them down! I mean, I am still trying to think of how someone could do this. It is extremely sad, because so many of the women in the country obviously have tried or wanted to, but they can not change the ways of their society. They can surely try, and obviously try they have, but in a type of society such as this with values that it has, it is extremely difficult to try and change something that has been set in stone for so long. I hope that soon, these women will be able to start to really change and make an impact on these values that have been set for so long. Yikes!","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20109313","dateCreated":"1265953796","smartDate":"Feb 11, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"katobin16","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/katobin16","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20109313"},"dateDigested":1532140633,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Jamie and Lumi's Current Event","description":"This article was sickening to read. It's horrifying to think of how women must undergo events like this. This woman was buried alive for nothing more than just talking to the opposite gender, something which many of us take for granted on an everyday basis. What I though t was even more sickening was how the family of the woman condoned the honour killing. I thought it was interesting how the article pointed out that most of the honour killings take place in poverty-stricken nations. I was very frustrated in that only woman are subject to honour killings, while most males are never effected. I also wanted to know how actions were deemed inappropriate in Turkey after reading the article. Were girls allowed to have any contact with boys? Why is there a double standard for boys? Although the article provided a good start, I now feel the need to search out more information on this appalling trend.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]},{"id":"20107493","dateCreated":"1265948648","smartDate":"Feb 11, 2010","userCreated":{"username":"arushidutt","url":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/user\/view\/arushidutt","imageUrl":"https:\/\/www.wikispaces.com\/i\/user_none_lg.jpg"},"monitored":false,"locked":false,"links":{"self":"https:\/\/iolaniwomenlit.wikispaces.com\/share\/view\/20107493"},"dateDigested":1532140633,"startDate":null,"sharedType":"discussion","title":"Response on Jenna and Kaitrin's article","description":"To be honest, I was quite disgusted with this article and how pathetic the situation could be by the way college students act just because there\u2019s an imbalance between the sexes. Like for example, how if there are more men than women on a college campus, the men take advantage of that, and purposely control the intensity and sexuality of a relationship. I was disgusted by how the men take women for granted, and since women want something \u201cmore,\u201d in a relationship, they end up not getting it because the men don\u2019t really care. Because the men have so many choices, they can just choose to leave a certain girl, who\u2019s not giving him enough in a relationship, and just go to the next one. It\u2019s like a game.<br \/>\nIt\u2019s also sad to think that even with a greater percentage of a certain sex, college students still get lonely. As Ashley Crisostomo said, she could hardly find anyone at her college to date, and would \u201cseek older professionals in the city.\u201d Because of this imbalance in college campuses, there is so much desperation. As the article says, girls overanalyze everything, and want more than anything to have a serious relationship. There are just too many expectations and misjudgments that can occur with an imbalance of the sexes.","replyPages":[{"page":0,"digests":[],"more":0}]}],"more":true},"comments":[]},"http":{"code":200,"status":"OK"},"redirectUrl":null,"javascript":null,"notices":{"warning":[],"error":[],"info":[],"success":[]}}